So, I have tried this roll on one and also the Muscle Salve in the tub. I honestly LOVE them BOTH, but for different reasons. The roll on has camphor and menthol, and I love those both because they are very penetrating and also NATURAL, which is super important to me. The roll on smells amazing and you start to feel it work right away. The Muscle Salve in the tub is totally different. It's much more dry and is not slippery. It smells less strong and still feels powerful, but more subtle. You could put this on and go back to the office and people would not ask about it because of the smell. You could put your clothes on right on top of it. My massage therapist loves the salve because it's effective but also not too slippery. She also uses the roll on,, but more for after a massage than during. I guess it's just a matter of what you are looking for. I have two friends that swear by these products for immediate relief of gout- I just can't remember which one they used. They were both so shocked how fast it worked. I also had a friend who dropped a brick on her toe and thought it would be super painful the next day, but she wrapped up her foot after slathering on the roll on and left it overnight, and her foot was completely normal in the morning. I love this stuff!